The instruction manual is pictured and other interesting details are described in. ----------------------------------------------------------- page 9 ----------------------------------------------------------. the interpretation of German unit marks is outside the scope of the by Poot 06 May 2016, 17:38, Post The press scolded for its frequent use of "Roman characters" under "Jewish influence" and German migrs urged to use only "German script". The eagle in front is the type of the Weimar era and was in use from 1919 - 1939. Lugers and P38 Markings MarshalZhukov 4.55K subscribers Subscribe 238 Share Save 122K views 13 years ago This video looks at the different markings that can be found on the Luger and P38. Zone vs. the WW2 Bahnschutz (Railway Protection). Fr soll an dem inneren Miederausbau mit= arbeiten, die ffentliche Gicherheit, Ordnung und Ruhe frdern und vor allem jedem Brger die Mglichteit geben, seiner sittlichen Bflicht zur Bettigung seiner geistigen und trperlichen Krfte zum Mohle der Gesamtheit zu gengen. In the example 2 conversion, to a complete P.08 style holster, the rear, horizontal leather stock block was removed and twin belt loops were added, curiously, one wider than the other, which may be a later repair replacement. 2866 is pictured in two views, one with the Xs removed and the other enhanced, both with the intent of identifying the markings. Einwohnerwehr had a membership of hundreds of thousands and was When found, the holsters are generally expensive, even in fair to poor condition. To the best of our knowledge, all the examples shown are original pre-1945 manufacture. The post WW2 German Railway system apparently still required police protection as evidenced by the subject pictured FN Browning M1922 7.65 mm pistol, stamped, interestingly, Bahnpolizei (Railway Police) U.S. All Luger pistols, produced by DWM after 1922 and until 1928(?) Brass stud added to the (cover) flap, additional brass stud added to the cleaning rod pouch. The Shah ordered 1,000 four-inchers and another 1,000 of these bad boys in 9mm. or Leder Zuweisungs Amt (Leather Allocation Office) over a Prussian Eagle over J. Berlin. Luger 1936 First Year after Sneak Codes. view 2 and Opinion 2: I'm convinced that this is an Air Factory Werkschutz holster. 19-130 text caption: A post-WW1 new manufactured police issue cleaning rod with soft-soldered stop for use with the Mndungsschoner for the P.08.These were issued to the police on a scale of one per pistol.Many of these rods will be police unit marked on the shaft between handle and muzzle stop. Article modified: Sunday, 7 July 2019. the center Police officer with a white colored belt. WaA107 Schnellpressenfabrik Heidelberg 1939 a.k.a. $4,495.00 $4,045.00 Compare There is no Police tool in the holster. Regarding the S. H.133. The base forms of the unit marks for this police force were ammended in The Borchardt & Luger Automatic Pistols book publications picture and describe cut-back artillery Luger holsters as specifically modified for police Luger carry, there are no Luger book published, period pictures of German Police with a cut-back artillery Luger holster, nor with any standard, non-police P.08 type Luger holster. This gives him the inner support, the calm appearance in the deficiency, the sure success and thus an increased enthusiasm and love for the profession. While the vast majority of Landjgerei-marked Lugers are 29 DWMs as noted, there is a small percentage of dated Imperial-era Lugers with these markings. Boasting classy lines, a well-recognized pedigree, and great ergos for a small all-steel gun, Smith & Wessons take on the Walther PPK/s aimed to revive an old carry king in the increasingly polymer-focused concealed carry market. Pages 108 and 216 of Costanzo's World of Lugers Proof Marks "1930-1936 stamps placed on firearms designated to be used for training purposes. Here are the rare Lugers (PHOTOS). The last numbers on the line indicate the item number of the item that was The It is interesting that the well-known Luger dealer that sold the Sturgess cut-back LP.08 holster had to be aware of the cleaning rod issue as the text description, while generally describes the changes to the holster cleaning rod pouch, tactfully avoids the obvious fact that a police cleaning rod with a brass stopper will not fit. Bavarian Police Defense Force (Polizeiwehr Bayern), feared that an expanded police force would become a ready reserve for the An examination of the P. Braunleder Cln cleaning rod pouch/sleeve brass stud shows a completely different shape of style and size of either of the two different lower and upper brass stud shapes of the subject cut-back Artillery to Police holster. eagle proof differs from recognized Police Luger eagle stamped holsters, which are usually not associated with E/WaA control numbers. JavaScript is disabled. Yes it DWM marked but without a chamber date. Prussian Eagle adorned clam shell device under the grip. WWI History after Treaty of Versailles: German production of 9mm pistols was prohibited. of "P". Pictured above are two books, Band I or Volume I WaA107 Auwrter & Bubeck, Stuttgart 1934, no example noted. For more detailed information on the 1946 Dresden Police manual. There is one other cut-back artillery LP.08 holster converted to a P.08 similar style holster, except that it is unmarked and, as such, cannot be associated with police use. ERFURT LUGER 1920/1917 POLICE REWORK - C40363 9mm; 96% blue, 40% straw, very good bore, good grips, 4'' barrel, This is a Police reworked pistol. - Kommando Wuertzburg, Kraftfahr-Sonderabteilung, Sind viele Uenderungen aus dem Gebiete des Staats=, Polizei= und Strafrechts eingetreten. My thanks go to all those who took the time and thought to participate in the discussion, and provided pictures and information for the survey. Das geistige Rstzeug fr seine Umtsausbung muss er so vllig besitzen, das ser jederzeit das Rechte trifft. The gun was converted to a German Police Luger during the Nazi era sometime between 1928, the year of manufacture, and 1934 by adding a sear safety and forward gripstrap Police marking, longitudinally stamped "S.M. and discussed in The Borchardt & Luger Automatic Pistols 2010 & 2011 by Grtz/Sturgess in Volume III, C19 Accessories, pages 1332-1333. Regimental Marking [Revised Edition] by Jeff Noll, P.O. As to whether it was used in that capacity is not known, however, does lend to the confusion if there was a muzzle protector, specifically made for the sole function to be used exclusively with the new brass stop police cleaning rod. The most important feature of this manual is the inside cover statement and page 1 which translated represents the total Denazification of the German Police by the East German Soviet occupation force with the text or message containing some rather subdued implied warnings. Pictured is an (officers) Upper Silesian "Landespolizei" buckle. It is also pictured as part of a police grouping consisting a period 1928 dated Police manual titled: 1928 Nr.7,1 Vorschrift fr die Waffenausbildung der Shutzpolizei or 1928 Nr.7,1 Regulations for the weapons training of the Police and an excellent condition example of the earliest new manufacture, pre-1925 first pattern, Weimar era Police Luger holster along with a 1929 Police Luger, rear gripstrap marked L.W.58 (Landjgerei Wiesbaden, weapon number 58) with original, unmodified magazine . ----------------------------------------------------------- page 2 ----------------------------------------------------------. and shipped to Mauser in the great move of 1930. the folded-over or closed holster body toe of the pictured 1924 example that twin belt loops were added to the holster rear. by von thoma 07 May 2016, 02:26, Post These bayonets also originally had a Prussian Eagle adorned clam shell device under the grip. invaluable source of information about the often obscure markings found on Possibly post-WW2 East Germany DDR Police holster with an under-the-cover flap, ink stamped maker in three lines: Koffer- u. Lederwarghnfabrik ZeitzS.L.V.SaaleZeitz or Holster and Leather Goods Factory ZeitzS.L.V.SaaleZeitz. ----------------------------------------------------------- page 5 ----------------------------------------------------------. 197 or Landjgerei Hannover with an Imperial crown/D and 197 stamped loading tool; view 1, view 2 and view 3. Additionally, hand written in pencil on the wooden cover is Fehrenbach, which is an area in Germany. The wooden cased German pistol cleaning kits were, apparently, not made exclusively for the P.08 Luger as a 1946 German police instruction manual titled: Die Pistolen der Polizie, dated Dresden 1946 specifically lists several pistols, including the P.08, although other pistols listed are mostly 7.65 mm caliber, all used by the German Police after WW2. These bayonets were carried by all Police, and since Germany was a Police State, there were a lot of them. Below is the translated Introduction section of Volume I. Mit der am 6 Ottober 1920 durchgefhrten Umbildung der Polizei hat die sachloche Zustndigfeit der neuen Polizei eine erhebliche Frweiterung ersahren. Pictured is a disassembled view of the subject aftermarket P08 marked and police stick wing acceptance stamped, variation 1 muzzle protector. Serial number stamped on the back corner 9436. The fourth is a very early 3-digit, circa 1930 production DWM/Mauser commercial/Police Luger serial number 873V. although some examples have been modified to a single loop belt carry by rotating the Edward Tinker. Rock Island Auctions has over 100 Lugers at their upcoming Premier Auction in May including carbines and artillery models and rare pistols meant for Persian, American, and Russian markets. But you must recognize that; being a researcher yourself! back-side attached single, horizontal leather stock block strip and removing the center block. similar restriction. The new Freistaat Preuen style eagle was adopted as the emblem of the Preuen Schutzpolizei, (Prussian Protection Police) and the Preuen Kommunalpolizei, (Prussian Local/Municipal Police) and was utilized on their belt buckles. With his permission, I have posted it below. the ministry's Official Directory provides clear, concise and easy-to-understand information to the police officers about their own rights and duties and how they are to deal with the daily demands of the service. The initials MG represent machine gun and the number being (page 108) 10th Training Corps or (page 216) with the 10 denoting the team number. Most of them are out of date: on the other hand, so many regulations have been added recently that it would be difficult for the novice to find out the right thing. Mauser Sneak Police. Einwohnerwehr in 1921. 1014 stamped on the back side along with an Eagle/Mg10 stamping, considered by Luger collectors to be rare on holsters, particularly on Police Luger holsters. 9mm; 95% blue, 90% straw, very good bore, near mint grips, 4'' barrel, The metal finish is very good, but it has slight muzzle wear on the left side of the barrel. Borchardt-Luger - produced 1895-1896. Although, looking like a post 1926 type 2 police holster, being stamped on the rear with a P.08 serial number 1108 located on the rear panel in the upper right corner, usually associated with police holsters, it has an army E/WaAJL16 stamping. Some of the Police guns are reported with DWM toggles; these do not appear in any recognizable pattern. Goering kept them under control of the Luftwaffe Air Ministry while all other Werkschutz units were controlled by the Ordnungspolizei. S.B.S.I 1.7 - item 7 in the 1st Centuria within command I of the South The lower attachment of the left belt loop has been crudely reinforced with wire, probably while in service. with the following rear cover page translations, of which both Volume I and Volume II front and rear covers are identical, with the rear cover upper paragraph statement: The "Guide" compiled in Versailles, and after repeated demands by the IMKK, on June 29, 1921, the Das gibt ihm den inneren halt, das ruhige Uustreten in der Dessentlichteit, den sicheren Erfolg und damit eine gesteigerte Dienstfreudigteit und Liebe zum Berufe. 1. ----------------------------------------------------------- page 12 ----------------------------------------------------------, Pictured is an exceptional example of one such Police officer private purchase, unmarked and unmodified Weimar era Police clamshell dress bayonet. This unique variation is the only known example of a cut-back artillery so modified. 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